ANTICIPACIONES DE NISMAN.

Publicado en 04/08,2015

El escritor argentino-israelí Gustavo Perednik era un amigo muy cercano del fiscal Alberto Nisman, quien fuera hallado muerto en su departamento horas antes de presentar una denuncia en el Congreso argentino contra la presidenta de la República Austral, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner; su canciller, Héctor Timerman, y otros miembros del Gobierno argentino o allegados a él por encubrimiento en el caso de la matanza de la AMIA, que según la Justicia argentina fue ordenada por Irán y en la que murieron 85 personas.

Perednik, que reside en Israel, publicó en el 2009 el libro Matar sin que se note, donde relata, de forma novelada, la investigación seguida por Nisman hasta ese año.

En esta entrevista habla de su relación con el fiscal, brinda su opinión acerca de la investigación del caso AMIA, critica duramente al Gobierno argentino y no tiene duda alguna respecto de la muerte de su amigo, a quien, afirma, asesinaron.

¿Cuán cercana era tu relación con Alberto Nisman?

Éramos amigos muy cercanos. Cada vez que yo venía para Buenos Aires nos encontrábamos, estábamos en permanente contacto, y me visitó en mi casa en Israel.

¿Qué era lo que te decía respecto de la causa AMIA?

Recuerdo que, tras el último encuentro que tuve con él, en un bar porteño, le dije a mi esposa cuando volví a Israel: "Me parece que este tipo está delirando"; porque literalmente me afirmó: "Gustavo, vos creeme, yo a estos los meto presos o se van del país".

¿"Estos" quiénes son?

La presidenta Cristina Fernández de Kirchner y el canciller Héctor Timerman.

¿Cuál fue tu reacción?

Le dije que lo iban a matar. Pero él me respondió que igualmente estaba todo guardado. Yo insistí y le remarqué que yo no me refería a las pruebas, sino a su vida. Y él me dijo que toda persona que debe cumplir un deber como éste corre riesgos, y él lo asumía. Lo veía como una misión.

¿Lo notabas seguro cuando expresaba esas graves acusaciones?

Totalmente seguro.

¿Te comentaba acerca de las pruebas que poseía?

Él era muy profesional y, por supuesto, no me decía qué pruebas tenía, pero sí me comentaba que

eran irrefutables.

Teniendo en cuenta que te dijo que tenía las pruebas bien guardadas, ¿era bien consciente del riesgo que corría su vida?

Sí. De hecho, en uno de nuestros encuentros en Buenos Aires, le llevé una lista con cinco títulos posibles para el libro Matar sin que se note, cuando recién lo había terminado, allí por el año 2009, y le pregunté cuál le gustaba más. Me dijo: "Éste es bueno, eh"; y me señaló el título que decía "El asesinato de Alberto Nisman".

¿Nisman no tenía dudas de que el responsable del atentado contra la AMIA es Irán?

Afirmar que no tenía duda es quedarse corto. No hay duda alguna. Está demostrado en su dictamen de 802 páginas que no lee nadie y que yo me encargué de novelizar en Matar sin que se note. Él siempre me decía que él no tenía opiniones, que la filosofía me la dejaba a mí, que él se dedicaba a recolectar pruebas, y las evidencias contra Irán son irrefutables. No hay manera de que no haya sido Irán el responsable. Hay pasajes de avión, transferencias bancarias, llamadas telefónicas y otras pruebas que lo demuestran claramente. Y, por si esto fuera poco, en las escuchas últimas, esto se entiende de las escuchas.

Pero hasta el momento se hicieron públicas pocas escuchas…

Sí. Y algún material puede ser destruido antes de salir a la luz. Sin embargo, yo tengo la sospecha optimista de que las escuchas están salvaguardadas en algún lugar. El que debe de saber dónde están y hasta quién mató al fiscal es [el exagente de inteligencia Antonio] Stiuso.

¿Qué tipo de relación tenía Nisman con Stiuso?

Un fiscal comienza a empujar una investigación, pero cuando necesita ir al llano se precisa del servicio de inteligencia. Ellos tenían una relación profesional muy estrecha, se ayudaban mutuamente. Nisman lo admiraba mucho además. Es ridículo que quieran responsabilizar a Stiuso de matar a Nisman con el fin de complicar a la presidenta.

¿Qué opinión te merece Diego Lagomarsino (quien confesó haber dado a Nisman el arma con la que fue disparada la bala que mató al fiscal)?

No sé. No lo conozco. Pero me parece que están inflando algo con él que es muy marginal.

Vos no tenés duda de que lo asesinaron…

Ninguna.

¿Lo indujeron al suicidio quizá?

Conociéndolo a Nisman, me cuesta creerlo. Estando en el momento más importante de su carrera, con todo el entusiasmo para hacer la presentación de su vida, ¿qué le puedes decir o hacer para que tome semejante determinación? Yo insisto en que fue un asesinato.

¿El Gobierno es el principal sospechoso?

Los sospechosos directos son las bandas que están al lado del Gobierno, las de [Fernando] Esteche [líder de la agrupación violenta Quebracho], [Luis] D'Elía [patotero aliado del Gobierno] y otras, con la ayuda profesional del grupo kirchnerista de la SI (Secretaría de Inteligencia). Estamos frente a un grave peligro. Muy similar a lo que sucede en Venezuela con el servicio de inteligencia.

¿Crees que Cristina dio la orden para que lo asesinaran, o que al menos sabía lo que iba a suceder?

Ni yo, que no le tengo ninguna simpatía a Cristina, creo que ella haya ordenado que lo matasen. Si sabía o no lo que iban a hacer es difícil de saber. Pero si, en una reunión, agentes de la SI y otros de sus allegados dijeron que había que parar a Nisman porque se le fue la mano y ella no les puso un freno, entonces estaríamos ante un hecho grave de todos modos.

Dado que hay un móvil por el asesinato de Nisman, ¿debería Cristina presentarse a declarar?

Obviamente, no lo hará. Pero lo primero que debería haber hecho es dar sus condolencias a la familia y ponerse a disposición de la Justicia. Sin embargo, ha hecho todo al revés. No es una persona muy modesta, que digamos, la presidenta. Se olvidó de que Nisman fue la víctima y pasó a victimizarse ella.

¿Qué opinión te merece el canciller Timerman?

Timerman por poder es capaz de vender a su madre. Y, por lo tanto, vendería también a un fiscal y al país. Es un cínico. No me sorprendería que estuviera enterado de todo.

¿A pesar de que se hayan referido al canciller con un agravio ("ruso de mierda"), según se pudo apreciar en las escuchas entre D’Elía y Jorge Khalil (el supuesto líder comunitario argentino de ascendencia libanesa, quien para Nisman era el nexo del Gobierno con los iraníes)?

Lo insultan porque personajes como estos son profundamente judefóbicos. Por lo tanto, ni siquiera a Timerman, que está del lado de ellos, lo soportan.

¿Qué opinas de la teoría de la llamada "conexión local"?

Es un desvío creado por los iraníes para que no se hable de ellos. Es como si para hablar del Holocausto yo pusiera el foco en la ayuda que brindaron los polacos, pero esa masacre la llevó a cabo Alemania, hay que referirse entonces a Alemania. Sé que hubo todo tipo de irregularidades acá, pero el responsable fundamental es Irán.

¿Crees que habrá alguien con las agallas de Nisman para que continúe el trabajo del fiscal?

No. Nisman era muy especial. Era capaz de meter preso a cualquiera. Si él tenía una prueba adelante, no lo paraba nadie.

¿Qué te pareció la reacción de la sociedad ante la muerte del fiscal?

Me sorprendió. Está conmoviendo al mundo entero. Me llamaron de varias partes para entrevistarme. En todo el planeta se está hablando de un fiscal argentino. Pienso que eso sucede porque Nisman era un símbolo de lo que Argentina está perdiendo: gente idealista que cree en lo que hace. Había personas que no sabían ni quién era él y salieron a la calle a despedirlo, ya que lo consideran un héroe. Es como si hubieran matado al último foco de justicia que existía en la Argentina.

¿El asesinato de Nisman quedará impune, como la matanza de la AMIA?

El caso AMIA está resuelto gracias a Nisman, pero no están presos los perpetradores. Ojalá lleguemos a esa situación con el caso Nisman, pero para eso falta recorrer una distancia que creo no se va a recorrer. La gente tiene miedo. Se precisa de un fiscal medio suicida, lamentablemente, para hacerlo.

¿La sociedad lo olvidará?

Puede ser. Pero la personalidad de Nisman quedará grabada en la memoria argentina.




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    Por Edgardo Arrivillaga.

    Entre las fantasías mas o menos domesticas figura la de que la Argentina nada hizo para reforzar su defensa interna luego de los atentados contra la colectividad judía tanto en la Embajada de Israel como en la mutual judía Amia; que provocó en ambos casos una lacerante situación dentro de la comunidad argentina judía cuyas heridas permanecen abiertas.

    El intento de Nissman, estrechamente vinculado a la SIDE, forma parte de esa interna en la que se alternan los nombres de Beraja, las peregrinaciones de Rodríguez Toranzo - Subsecretario Side trepando en El Líbano de la época y la situación de muchos colaboracionistas del Proceso militar que aparecen –según ese medio extraordinariamente objetivo que es Pagina 12 – como quienes habrían contaminado las puras aguas del terrorismo en el país en beneficio no se sabe muy bien de que.

    Todas esas especulaciones de criaturas adictas al cine negro como el periodista drogadicto Gustavo Levinas, ex director de El Porteño no solo no resisten el menor análisis sino que hacen aparecer al juez Oyharbide-quien ahora intentara vincular a Mauricio Macri con la Amia -como un sosegado cultor de la Balada de la Cárcel de Reading aunque todavía no hemos logrado ni leer ni descifrar su patético De Profundis.

    En realidad la Argentina, además de recibir a delegaciones de la Mossad, del FBI, la CIA y el Servicio de Documentación Francés desarrolló una serie de acuerdos tendientes a monitorear tanto la Triple Frontera como a prevenir el desarrollo de ulteriores atentados antijudios en su territorio.

    El 28 de marzo de 1996 el Ministerio de Defensa Israelí ,representado por su viceministro Ori Orr firmo con la Argentina un acuerdo de cooperación que bajo el eufemístico nombre de Convenio Interinstitucional los dos países reconocen la importancia de la cooperación entre los dos ministerios en el campo de sus respectivas competencias-la Defensa israelí tiene una sola competencia- refiriéndose en este caso al uso y equipamiento en alta tecnología y procedimientos científicos que implicaban :
    1- modernizar sus unidades operativas.
    2- adquisición de elementos de alta tecnología.
    3-capacitación en materia de recursos humanos.
    4-intercambio de información, en este ultimo caso manteniendo la plena confidencialidad entre las partes y con un espíritu de apertura y entendimiento mutuos dentro del marco jurídico estipulado por las leyes y reglamentaciones de la Republica Argentina y del Estado de Israel.

    En el acápite 3 y bajo el titulo Principios que gobernaran a las partes, Cooperación y Entendimiento se señala además aspectos vinculados con la cooperación en el traspaso de equipamiento, entrenamiento, intercambio, investigación y producción en la cual las partes fomentaran la investigación industrial en ambos países tendientes a la implementación de proyectos y la producción de equipamientos para ambas partes.
    Y esto no es un hecho menor porque las fuentes en política exterior señalan que el poderoso desarrollo tecnológico militar israelí sobre todo en el ámbito aeroespacial tiene básicamente un principio defensivo autocentrado en su propia tecnología.

    ATLÁNTICO SUR.
    Israel no quiere depender de embargo alguno sobre todo después del ejemplo argentino de Malvinas, guerra que ha seguido con extrema atención.Tanto que Israel organizó la posibilidad de establecer un puente aéreo con la ciudad argentina de Córdoba siguiendo el viejo principio de que una nación con presencia importante de ciudadanos judíos debe ser protegida por el Estado de Israel y esto lo refirió al autor concretamente el representante de la Aeroespacial francesa, un general de la fuerza francesa quién me señaló “el tiempo de combate de sus pilotos es muy bajo por la distancia pero hay un país que tiene misilistica para suplir el problema”
    Y acercandose a un gran mapa de desarrollos aereos marco al Estado de Israel.
    Corría la guerra de invierno austral de 1982 y por la misma época el Brasil estaba en negociaciones con Polonia para alquilar un rompehielos para operar en la Antartida y el curtido general señaló:”en la periferia no hay mas bloques bipolares, solo utilidades de utilización.”

    Pero volviendo al articulado en el punto 4 del acuerdo se sostiene que “la información sumistrada a una de las partes no será utilizada para otro propósito sin previo consentimiento de la Parte que brindo la información como así también sin consentimiento de los titulares de la información técnica suministrada y la información producida será tratada con los mismos recaudos utilizados para el manejo de investigación técnica propia.

    Asimismo, en el artículo 5 se señala de forma notoria que bajo ninguna circunstancia será suministrada a terceros dicha información técnica o sus productos derivados sin previo consentimiento por escrito de la Parte que la produjo sin informar a sus titulares.

    Esto es simplemente una cláusula de undercircunvention act en este caso aplicada a un acuerdo tecnológico antiterrorista y centrado en la defensa nacional de ambos países.Es exactamente el antídoto de la inestabilidad que genera Irán con su desarrollo nuclear pero trasladado a otras esferas de competencia militar.
    Por el mismo motivo el articulo sostiene que la transferencia a terceros de material técnico y /o información técnica o artículos derivados del mismo generados por el presente convenio esta sujeta a acuerdos entre las partes evaluando individualmente cada caso.

    El punto 6 para evitar justamente el peligroso apotegma de los objetivos sin tiempo que apunta a la perpetuación de una política antiterrorista sine die se señala que el presente Convenio Interinstitucional no se refiere a asuntos que exceden la competencia de cada una de las partes
    Esto preserva indirectamente el principio de extraterritorialidad operacional.El intercambio de personal no forma parte sustantiva del acuerdo por lo tanto no se lo incluye mas que en anexos especiales que son secretos.

    El articulo cuarto se refiere a lo que entendemos por información técnica y allí se explicita que se refiere a todo dato e información operativa concreta, técnica, comercial incluyendo pero no limitada al secreto comercial que es propiedad de cada una de las partes.
    .
    El artículo 5 establece pautas de seguridad para el acuerdo mismo ya que el objetivo consistía en tratar de evitar cualquier interpretación off the record; así las partes estaban sujetas a un acuerdo de confidencialidad a ser suscripto por la respectivas autoridades de Seguridad relevantes incluso por ambas partes a futuro.Esto se debía a que ni los argentinos ni mucho menos los israelíes podían calibrar un hipotético sistema de seguridad global en materia de terrorismo ,hecho que quedo patente en los atentados de Torres Gemelas años mas tarde.
    En el sistema de gastos se establece que cada parte soportara los costos emergentes del convenio u de su ejecución a menos que convenga lo contrario entre las partes.
    Esto se define como producto de una evaluación entre las partes
    La duración del convenio que rige a partir de la fecha de su firma tiene una validez de cinco años prorrogables con una anticipación de 6 meses en la que las partes notifican su mutua aquiescencia para su prorroga.
    En el artículo 8 se establece el sistema de funcionamiento de las reuniones y su periodicidad estableciendo que las mismas se orientaran a buscar nuevos campos de potencial cooperación entre representantes de entidades tanto gubernamentales como privadas de ambos países. Acá entra subrepticiamente el componente de acción sicológica que incluye no solo a los medios de comunicación sino a lo que en términos gramcianos pero vistos del otro lado del espejo podemos definir el frente cultural antiterrorista.

    Andre Gluksman, Bernard Henry Levi y Christopher Hitchens forman parte de ese frente.

    El idioma común a las partes es el ingles y para ello se firma simplemente un protocolo de seguridad y luego se detallan los destinatarios de los contenidos del protocolo de intención científico tecnológico que son los siguientes.

    Por el Ministerio de Defensa del Estado de Israel,el Director de Países Latinoamericanos-SIBAT,IMOD con sus teléfonos correspondientes, por la Argentina el Jefe de la Policía Federal Argentina de quien se detallan sumariamente sus teléfonos y en Buenos Aires para evitar encontronazos el Agregado Militar en la Embajada israelí en Buenos Aires.
    La competencia de la policía federal en el asunto no exige demasiada erudición.Uno de los atentados fue contra una embajada, la investigación de los atentados contra embajadas recae sobre la Corte Suprema en la Argentina y la fuerza que se ocupa de la custodia de las legaciones es justamente la policía Federal.
    En síntesis, no es cierto que la Argentina nada haya hecho para proteger la vida y propiedades de sus compatriotas de confesión judía potencialmente amenazados.Ocurre que actualmente existe una clara operación contra Macri y eventualmente contra quien se perfile como opositor efectuada por los núcleos social fascistas y básicamente antijudios que anidan en el gobierno nacional de la familia Kirchner.
    O al menos en algunos de sus sectores.Probablemente el error argentino fue no haber procesado virtualmente y criminalisticamente a una de las conexiones posibles pero de eso se ocuparía mas tarde sin resultado practico alguno el juez Canicoba Corral.Las masas iraníes se quedaron inmóviles ante las pretensiones de la justicia argentina.Iran es simplemente un volcán que consume las mejores intenciones jurídicas o diplomáticas y la Argentina poco podía hacer en el asunto.

    Años mas tarde, el 27 de abril de 1998 una minuta secreta informa que la CONSOFAM (Comisión de Solidaridad con los familiares de Desaparecidos con sede en Barcelona, España) había hecho una denuncia ante el juez Garzón sobre el tratamiento severo que habían recibido los detenidos judíos durante el ultimo gobierno militar argentino.
    El presidente de la COSOFAM de la época era Juan Pablo Jaroslawsky quien también hizo referencia a los atentados sufridos por la Embajada de Israel y la AMIA.

    LLEGAN TURISTAS.
    .
    En la misma época ocurrieron dos hechos de notorio interés. Uno de ellos la visita del presidente alemán Román Herzog a la Argentina quién declaró a Die Welt y otros medios que se hacia imprescindible investigar algunos de los sucesos ocurridos en la embajada alemana en la Argentina en el periodo 1976/83.
    En realidad fuentes mas cautas informaron que los intereses de Herzog se referían al desarrollo de la industria automotriz en la Argentina y no tanto a lo que había ocurrido en la legación alemana.
    Por la misma época Carlos de Windsor visitaba la Argentina rindiendo homenaje a los caídos en ambas partes del conflicto del Atlántico Sur.
    Finalmente y como telón de fondo de estos hechos el diario chileno La Tercera ,vinculado a ambientes militares trasandinos se centralizaba en la figura del general MartinBalza señalando que si bien era hombre de confianza del presidente Menem en sus propias filas habían gente que discutía el origen de su patrimonio personal.
    Las fuentes no indicaban que Balza tenia muchos de sus hombres -artilleros e infantes en su mayor parte -trabajando para Panamerican y BP y que habían evacuado ejecutivos extranjeros de la encerrona que les había tendido el entonces dirigente Evo Morales en Bolivia.
    Los ejecutivos fueron transportados en helicóptero a la Argentina y luego de allí hacia el exterior pero el hecho paso desapercibido.
    Por ultimo fuentes españolas destacaban en la misma época la importancia de que el directorio de YPF creara una comisión de trabajo para estudiar la posibilidad de integrar el grupo español REPSOL, lo que supondría un avance importante en las aspiraciones de la petrolera española propietaria en aquel entonces de 14,99 del paquete accionario.
    La fusión de ambas empresas -se señalaba - abrirían las puertas a la creación de la mayor petrolera en Hispanoamérica.

    PETROBRAS acaba de lograrlo.
    En la misma época el gobierno argentino se comprometió con el Fondo Monetario Internacional-a través de un documento reservado -a privatizar el Banco Nación, operación que debería presuntamente concretarse a fines del año 2000.
    El tema de la reelección de Menem -a la cual Duhalde se oponía se convirtió en un asunto excluyente-asi como una eventual dolarización de la economía argentina cuyos opositores objetaban sosteniendo que el déficit de cuenta corriente hacia que la Argentina siguiera siendo vulnerable a los cambios en los mercados de capitales.
    Finalmente y mientras el acuerdo antiterrorista que hemos detallado ya estaba plenamente vigente dos cables de la agencia francesa AFP de la época se refirieron cautamente a los testimonios brindados por los médicos forenses que trabajaban para la policía bonaerense durante el periodo 1976/83.
    Las informaciones relacionadas a la firma de falsos certificados de defunción en algunos casos en perjuicio de argentinos de confesión judía demostraba como quedo plasmado ante la Cámara Federal de Apelaciones de La Plata que los cadáveres no habían sido examinados por los médicos en el momento de producirse el deceso.
    Finalmente la participación de grupos de choque para investigar el caso AMIA tiene cierta semejanza con la búsqueda de policías retirados para conformar la policía modelo londinense que imaginaba ingenuamente Macri.
    Ocurre que los grupos antiterroristas y de inteligencia argentinos nada tienen que ver con la metodología de Scotland Yard y su escuela ha sido básicamente la francesa.
    Otra cosa no hay.
    Y el tema AMIA sigue siendo funcional a casi todos pero en un situación política que excede el marco extracontinental que implicaron los dos atentados antes de que la jauría de Bim Ladem ,armada e inventada por los norteamericanos inicialmente en una audaz maniobra de Zbigniew Brzerzinsky se precipitase sobre las Torres Gemelas abriendo otros frentes de guerra.

    Si se analizan las maniobras argentinas y se las cruza con las del gran capital petrolero -Ezkenazy geoenergeticamente hizo lo que Menem no pudo hacer y Kirchner si - y los atentados antijudios en el país se retroalimentan extrañamente con intereses petroleros que terminan por consolidarse.
    Nada ha hecho ni dicho ni opinado el embajador Héctor Timerman al respecto.Pese a los intereses de antaño de algún sector de su familia con la intervenida BRIDAS.
    Lo más probable es que ignore todo este asunto simplemente.

  3. ana
    04/08,2015 | 11:34

    Edgardo ,yo estoy aca por TIMMERMAN.
    A Timmerman ,prácticamente fui a encontrarlo en una manifestación
    Creo que el mundo entero de las personas que conmigo luchaban POR UN PRIMER OBJETIVO en contra de los KIRCHNER estaban en otro lugar muy distinto
    Yo fui a ver quienes eran ,POR SUS REPRESENTANTES ADENTRO,LOS QUE OBLIGABAN A CRISTINA A LA 125
    FUI A LA MANIFESTACION DE LOS DOS CONGRESOS Y BINCO!!!!!!TIMMERMAN Y VERBI.
    Todo traspirado el hombre ,embajador nuestro en EE UU.
    ORDEN.HAY QUE ABRIRSE PARA QUE PAREZCA QUE HAY MAS GENTE PARA CONVENCER A NESTOR DEL APOYO.
    Tuvimos éxito ,la retención continuo deprimiendo nuestro único respiro en ese negocio sano del campo PERO NOSOTROS DERROTAMOS AL KIRCHNERISMO.
    Después esto DIRIGIDO POR GENTE AFIN A TIMMERMAN ,que conozco muy bien porque he seguido sus BLOG ,SUS PUBLICACIONES ETC Y SE QUIENES SON.TAMBIEN CURIOSAMENTE DIRIGIDA LA OPOSICION QUE VOLVIO A POSICIONAR AL KIRCHNERISMO DERROTADO EN UN LUGAR PREEMINENTE
    Conozco LOS ENFRENTAMIENTOS ENTRE JUDIOS DE MEMORIA.
    Le comentaba en su FACEBOOK a mi primo hermano CUANDO LO HABLE DESESPERADA PARA QUE NO ACEPTARA LA CANDIDATURA A CONVENCIONAL CONSTITUYENTE QUE HABIA FABRICADO ALFONSIN ,VIOLANDO LA INTERNA
    RECUERDO UN AMIGO DE PARANA ,que no estaba enterado que mi marido e hijos llevan apellido judío ,que me dijo que yo era NAZI porque le dije que LOS INTERESES JUDIOS ESTABAN DESESPERADOS POR LOGRAR ACUERDO CON MENEM Y LOS INTERESES SIRIOS (entre muchos secretos tremendos del pacto de OLIVOS).
    Acompañe a mi concuñado KHANE ,que se decía en nombre del ESTADO DE ISRAEL(no me consta) que fue recibido con gran amabilidad(me sorprendio) por la ahora primera mandataria.LLEVABA DOCUMENTACION DE LA PISTA IRANI .
    Ella era senadora y manifestó en ese momento creer en la pista SIRIA .No recuerdo muy bien lo que dijo pues me detuve en su problema de incipiente alopecia.
    PERSONALMENTE YO CREIA EN LA PISTA SIRIA ,no por lo que decía CRISTINA sino porque yo habitualmente acompañaba a gente que se reunia frente a TRIBUNALES y conversaba con un señor (perdió ojo y oído derecho PORQUE CRUZABA PASTEUR)QUE DECIA HABER VISTO A UN UNIFORMADO(CREIA MUNICIPAL O COSA POR EL ESTILO) TIRAR ALGO EN EL VOLQUETE e inmediatamente producirse el ESTALLIDO.
    ISRAEL PRESIONABA POR LA PISTA IRANI.
    ISRAEL COLABORO CON CRISTINA POR EL ASUNTO DE LOS HIELOS ,mi concuñado llevo estudios hechos por ISRAEL para apoyar la cuestión nuestra.
    TENIAN GRAN SIMPATIA POR CRISTINA ,buena simpatía a tal punto que mi concuñado (QUE MUERE EN PRESIDENCIA DE DE LA RUA) me hace tomar confianza en CRISTINA.
    Yo la veía(conste que soy mas radical que alfonsinista en mi forma de pensar) a CRISTINA mas afin al ALFONSINISMO que yo.
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